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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 2:14 pm    Post subject: jams/improv Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

So what's up with the jams and improv blocks on the schedule? Is someone structuring this in some way? This sounds like a fun part of the event.

Also, what is the distinction between the two? Jams are of interest to the performers and the later improv performances are of interest to the audience?
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well, the jams are for people who want to jam without too much supervision except from themselves. If there is big demand for the jams, we may have some sort of signup proceedure. Jim Combs has volunteered to coordinate the jams.

The improvs are for perfromance groups that spontaneously develop during the event. We may have to moderate who gets those slots in some way if there is demand for them. We are encouraging people who are on Sunday night to be open to the possibility of jamming with others, but that's strictly up to the performers.

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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks for clearing that up.

I am fine with anarchy.
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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

We'll see how it goes. I think the jams will be relatively unstructured unless there are a lot of people who want to play at the same time. Then we might need some kind of sign-ups. Jim is going to manage this.
My thinking about the improvs is that they are performances, but the personnel would be groupings that formed out of the jams or otherwise came into existence during the event. I also asked Jim to help out with identifying the possibilities for this.
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i think a relative tempo and key signature would be nice to start off with, dontcha think? Besides that I don't see much reason to structure it any further. If we have a lot of people jamming, we just have to leave it up to each other to restrain ourselves somewhat. IMHO, when doing this kind of thing, the best way to think of it is as additive synthesis. Each person adds an element of the sound; Less of the thick and busy loops/textures, more of the simpler waves that are centered in a particular portion of the spectrum; that way we get a final waveform that isn't too unintelligable.
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You're right, when there's lots of people involved, it's important that everyone be conscious of how they fit sonically. In my experience it's possible to make it work with a large group, but it's much easier with smaller groups, especially if the musicians have not played together before.
Probably the only kind of structure I would consider imposing would be to limit the number of people, or the length of time that a given group could play. At least to allow everyone get a chance who wants to jam.
Maybe some people will want to have jams with a certain theme, such as ambient, space music, rhythmic, melodic, jazzy, noise collage, experimental etc. Or people with the same instrument will want to have a session.
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